Comments on: New Zero-Emissions Commuter Bike: The A2B http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik The Guide To Highly Efficient Things Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:48:28 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: jimmys http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-88628 jimmys Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:59:32 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-88628 Well do these bicycles also live in a house that has electricity? Well do these bicycles also live in a house that has electricity?

]]> By: jimmys http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-88627 jimmys Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:56:24 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-88627 Hey I purchased one its great and we also use wind generator produced power. Hey I purchased one its great and we also use wind generator produced power.

]]> By: demigon http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-81493 demigon Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:25:24 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-81493 Awesome post. In general I think the term zero emissions should be abandoned along with many other green terms... Awesome post. In general I think the term zero emissions should be abandoned along with many other green terms…

]]> By: Steve http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-80195 Steve Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:19:03 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-80195 I test-rode one of these A2B bikes, and it was MUCH nicer than any other electric bike I've ever ridden or owned. The A2B doesn't feel "cheap" like most other bikes, and it is really powerful. When riding, you get the sense that if it was not artificially limited to 20mph, it could go much faster. Although I didn't take it up any hills, my guess was that it could handle all but the steepest hills with no problem whatsoever. This bike is so far ahead of other electric bikes, that it really isn't even fair or appropriate to compare it to other electric bikes. But as sweet of a bike as it is, alas, the $2,500 price tag is the deal breaker for me. That is some serious scratch for a bicycle. I suppose if you live in a city, and intended to use this bike for 50%+ of all your transportation needs, it would probably pencil out financially. But for a person like me - who would primarily use it to commute 4 miles (each way) for work each day - it would take years and years for the cost to be justified. Now, if gas went back up to $4+/gallon (which it very well could), the payoff could obviously be much faster. But until then, for me, this would really be more of an expensive toy than anything else. I also might worry about how long the company will stay in business, allowing the bike to be fully supported. Because at $2,500, I can't imagine they're selling many of these in a deep recession. I've also noticed that even the best electric bike companies in the past, have only been able to make it a couple years until they had to throw in the towel. I hope Ultra Motors is different! They could certainly help matters by lowering the price. At $2,000, I might at least consider buying. And at $1,500, I would buy one TODAY! I test-rode one of these A2B bikes, and it was MUCH nicer than any other electric bike I’ve ever ridden or owned. The A2B doesn’t feel “cheap” like most other bikes, and it is really powerful. When riding, you get the sense that if it was not artificially limited to 20mph, it could go much faster. Although I didn’t take it up any hills, my guess was that it could handle all but the steepest hills with no problem whatsoever. This bike is so far ahead of other electric bikes, that it really isn’t even fair or appropriate to compare it to other electric bikes.

But as sweet of a bike as it is, alas, the $2,500 price tag is the deal breaker for me. That is some serious scratch for a bicycle. I suppose if you live in a city, and intended to use this bike for 50%+ of all your transportation needs, it would probably pencil out financially. But for a person like me – who would primarily use it to commute 4 miles (each way) for work each day – it would take years and years for the cost to be justified. Now, if gas went back up to $4+/gallon (which it very well could), the payoff could obviously be much faster.

But until then, for me, this would really be more of an expensive toy than anything else. I also might worry about how long the company will stay in business, allowing the bike to be fully supported. Because at $2,500, I can’t imagine they’re selling many of these in a deep recession. I’ve also noticed that even the best electric bike companies in the past, have only been able to make it a couple years until they had to throw in the towel. I hope Ultra Motors is different! They could certainly help matters by lowering the price. At $2,000, I might at least consider buying. And at $1,500, I would buy one TODAY!

]]> By: Aaron Dalton http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-74314 Aaron Dalton Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:10:16 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-74314 Hey Justin, Just got a chance to ride and review the A2B in New York City. Thought your readers might be interested in a hands-on review: http://1greenproduct.com/2009/07/03/a2b-electric-two-wheeler/ - Aaron Dalton, Editor, 1GreenProduct.com Hey Justin,

Just got a chance to ride and review the A2B in New York City.
Thought your readers might be interested in a hands-on review: http://1greenproduct.com/2009/07/03/a2b-electric-two-wheeler/

- Aaron Dalton, Editor, 1GreenProduct.com

]]> By: yoga DVD dude http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-57645 yoga DVD dude Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:03:05 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-57645 Nice article. I like yur site. Nice article. I like yur site.

]]> By: Marcelo Mena http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-53475 Marcelo Mena Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:17:32 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-53475 The electric bike commute is for those who can't pedal, or if the commute is too long, or if you don't want to arrive sweaty (late for meeting). The electric bike still is only 1/20th or less energy than a car commute. Considering a typical electric bike less than a kwh per 20 km, while it is important that the source of energy is clean, it is also important to use small quantities... Lightweight electric commuting is the low carbon answer for the mainstream, if there ever will be one. Even a hybrid uses 10 times more energy than an electric bike, at best. Marcelo Mena, Professor of environmental engineering in Chile. The electric bike commute is for those who can’t pedal, or if the commute is too long, or if you don’t want to arrive sweaty (late for meeting). The electric bike still is only 1/20th or less energy than a car commute. Considering a typical electric bike less than a kwh per 20 km, while it is important that the source of energy is clean, it is also important to use small quantities… Lightweight electric commuting is the low carbon answer for the mainstream, if there ever will be one. Even a hybrid uses 10 times more energy than an electric bike, at best.

Marcelo Mena, Professor of environmental engineering in Chile.

]]> By: cephoe http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-16727 cephoe Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:48:12 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-16727 It's available here: http://www.harborcountrybike.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ULTRAA2B&click=2 It’s available here:

http://www.harborcountrybike.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ULTRAA2B&click=2

]]> By: Rob Bookstein http://www.metaefficient.com/electric-bikes/atob-electric-scooter-bike-ebik.html/comment-page-1#comment-16450 Rob Bookstein Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:53:29 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/?p=1877#comment-16450 Perhaps it is moot to jump in on the zero-emissions debate, but the issue for all life activities is not whether CO2 is emitted by the process (it always is by burning or oxidative metabolism), but whether there is net production after subtracting the CO2 taken up by the prior growth of food or wood or whatever. Metabolism of food is a net zero-emissions process. Burning of fossil fuels is not because there is no ongoing compensatory uptake of CO2 by the creation of new oil (or at least not at any significant rate). Burning wood or forests is kind of in between because a large amount of stored CO2 is released suddenly, but it may eventually be balanced out (in theory) by tree / forest regrowth. Perhaps it is moot to jump in on the zero-emissions debate, but the issue for all life activities is not whether CO2 is emitted by the process (it always is by burning or oxidative metabolism), but whether there is net production after subtracting the CO2 taken up by the prior growth of food or wood or whatever. Metabolism of food is a net zero-emissions process. Burning of fossil fuels is not because there is no ongoing compensatory uptake of CO2 by the creation of new oil (or at least not at any significant rate). Burning wood or forests is kind of in between because a large amount of stored CO2 is released suddenly, but it may eventually be balanced out (in theory) by tree / forest regrowth.

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