9 continents makes a buncha different motors for sure, but they don’t put the kits together and this kit from ebikekit i feel is so much better for the money because of the 9 FET infineon controller and i was able to buy a kit so cheap from ebikekit that i bot 4 more for a community ebike sharing project i am starting in portland. if you something about ebikes you would know what i mean, and who i am.

i thought it was amazing that jason would actually pay the conversion fee for newbies to have their motor and controller installed at the bike shop if it was too difficult. which it really may be for people who are totally green in terms of tinkering. but for anybody who likes to build bikes like me, then the deal was the cheap price from ebikekits.com, so that’s why i bot from him. i wanted to buy a 9C kit from justin but it was just outa my price range until jason offered them so cheap.

the difference between the direct drive and the geared motors is the ability to use regen for braking with the direct drive motors but you cannot get regen out of a geared hubmotor.

also the ability of direct drive hubmotors to shed more heat than a geared hubmotor, from the large amounts of power that get pushed through the motor, is why i wanted to use a direct drive 9C rather than the geared type hubmotor.

for someone like me who has to fight the rain then one of the most important features on the 9 continents motor is the seals on the axle to keep out the moisture because that is how the hall sensors get shorted out and die. even C’lyte is now using seals like 9C has on the axles. this is so important in the pacific NW. a lotta of us up here like our electric assist, in large doses. but rain is the enemy of ebikes everywhere and so i think the seals are proof of their just overall higher level of quality.

power was why i did the 72V upgrade thread on the 36V 500W 9 FET Infineon controller that jason includes with his ebikekit and posted it up on the sphere. this controller can be reprogrammed to adjust the regen and power so they provide a useful platform for those of us who want more. and cheap too. i know a lot of other ebikers on the sphere that bot hubmotors and kits from jason at ebikekit.com too. we weren’t swayed by lies from fake phony guys.

we bot the best we could get for the least amount of money. same as anybody would. that’s what jason offers.

if jason at ebikekits is correct and this is slander deliberately used to damage his reputation because he has undercut the price on hubmotors so much then the site moderator here should do something to edit the sources of these defamations.

if you wanna see how people feel about the 9C then go over to the sphere and see how many people talk about their builds using a 9 C hubmotor they bot from jason at ebikekits.com because he was so much cheaper.

i think his kits are great too because the 9 FET controller can be used at 48V and i figured out how to modify them to run safely at up to 72V lifepo4, and because the motor is direct drive with seals on the axle to keep out water. i did not want a geared hub because i want to use regen for braking and the large direct drive hub motors can handle the heat over longer periods of heavy use. just everything about my 9C i think is so neat. but i don’t sell bikes or kits, i just like to build my own.

Jeff Sterns above is a most likely a fictitious name used by Ampedbikes to increase their web presence. This has been done repeatedly at several places online recently (see example: http://www.scooteringusa.com/2009/08/e-bike-kit-released-in-portland/) by the Ampedbikes in an attempt to win business. They choose this sort of negative marketing instead of concentrating on making their own product better and their customers happy.

There is no problem with the spokes on the E-BikeKit. They are safe and they are backed by a real company and real people that stand behind their work. Every wheel is professionally “trued” in our New Jersey facility. And we do encourage people to do their research. There is a vast amount of OBJECTIVE information on the E-BikeKit, the Ampedbike offering and many other e-bike related products at the Endless-Sphere Technology Forum: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/index.php
This is where you will find real product reviews and real advice from real people with real experience.

Ampedbikes is a sad company that had a falling out with the nine continents manufacturer (they claim to have sold over 3000 nine continent wheels before failing to meet sales quotas) and they are obviously bitter. This is well documented (see another example: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5407&p=164179&hilit=ampedbikes+jason+justin#p164179). In that thread they even use my name (jason) as the fictitious poster as an added personal jab. You’ll notice the registered user “JsBoss” registers just in time to say how good the Amp’d kit is and how he and the wife love them(never to post in that forum again). Here is another example of a recent post by fictitious poster “HighVoltage”: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12669

This is what you can expect from the people behind Ampedbikes.

It is absolutely pathetic that any competitor would waste their time throwing insults and hiding behind fake names and bogus posts instead of focusing on making their own product better.

As a consumer reading things like this it’s important that you ask yourself, if these are their marketing tactics what can you expect if you actually make the mistake of buying something from Ampedbikes?

I personally encourage Ampedbikes and Danny Ray (owner) to work harder and concentrate on customer satisfaction rather than wasting your time with obvious and slimy marketing tactics.

Sincerely,
Jason Kraft (real person and owner of The E-BikeKit™ and E-BikeKit.com)

The Ampedbikes.com kits are all straight spoked to prevent this from happening. The http://www.e-bikekit.com kits are simply off the shelf Nine continents kits that anyone can buy for around $130
http://www.cnjzdj.com/e_index.asp

Do your research people…

http://electricbicycleconversionkits.net

It had loads of information and was updated often.

We bought 2 of the “E-BikeKit Complete Conversion System with 36v10ah LiFePO4 Battery” and we were very impressed with the whole package. They even included a couple t-shirts, zip ties, a professional manual, a spoke wrench for maintenance and a universal torque arm($30 extra from Amped) with each kit which is a really nice touch. based on our experience with other conversion kits in years past we were surprised by everything that was included.

The LiFePO4 batteries are amazing. My husband and I have been riding whenever we get a chance and have gone on 20 mile trips with no sign of losing power. I have used lead acid batteries before on a bike we had years ago and this is a whole new world.

We posted pictures of our bikes in the “E-BikeKit™ Owner’s Club” section of their website: http://www.e-bikekit.com/shop/index.php?p=gallery

They are the two black Schwinn Sidewinders on the second page.

Thanks for your advice and we’ll see you on the road!

Overall we would recommend E-BikeKit.com and their complete electric bike conversion offering to anyone interested in converting their existing bike into a really nice electric bike.

Can you tell us what you paid? We are looking at the E-BikeKit conversion system from http://www.e-bikekit.com and trying to decide between this and amped kit. The amped website is not that good but the e-bikekit site is pretty impressive. Does anyone know what the differences are between the two kits?

The E-BikeKit kit seems to offer a lot more out of the box and also a nice LiFePO4 battery. What kind of batteries are you using with your kits?

Would love to see pictures if you can post them:)
Best of luck to you. If you’re new to the electric bike you have a lot to look forward to. These things are so much fun!