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		<title>By: Ali'i Pool and Spa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali'i Pool and Spa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha to all reading this article. Yes some of the alternatives here are a good way to complement a chlorine\bromine only pool system, but as the article notes, not all are chlorine free, and the Natural plant system that does requires a major overhaul expense, plus it takes years for it to be swimmable again. 

In my opinion, you have to be using your pool quite a bit to benefit from switching to an alternative to chlorine, and some deep pockets to run these alternatives.

Ozone and Ultraviolet are a good complement a chlorine or bromine system, but what they dont tell you is that they only work when the pool pump is running. So the hours the pool pump is off there is no benefit from these  expensive equipment additions. And if you are trying to save money by running your pool pump less to save in the utility bill costs, then this is not for you. 

The pool only sanitzes and cleans itself while it&#039;s running. The less you run it the less it cleans. Which means if you are thinking you are saving $$ by running it less and it turns green, it&#039;s going to cost you more to clear it through additives, and running it longer hours, usually overnight, to clear it! I am sure your pool service person won&#039;t mind as they&#039;ll be the ones&#039;s  having steak and lobster that night instead of you. 

Also, yes you do have to clean out your filter more frequent as to keep up the addional contaminates it collects, so if you&#039;re too busy to do it yourself then you will need to hire out this crucial task, or make it one or your offsprings chores. 

As for the Metal Ion system, I personally have not used this method, but as this article states it still requires some chlorine too. A lower pH is not good on the equipment, as acid is corrosive, and it makes the water more corrosive.  If you have a copper core heater then expect to replace the copper coil sooner, which is basically 2\3 the cost of a new heater after it&#039;s installed, plus it dries out the rubber seals and gaskets much quicker. No heater you say, you&#039;ve got solar, good for you, but a low pH is still bad on your body,  your plaster or grout of the tile. 

 Remember your swimming pool is full of chemicals, it&#039;s just a chemical bath, water is life and it wants to live, and chemicals are the gas chamber to water&#039;s life. The trick to proper balance is constant attention to the adjustment of the chemicals, think of your pool as a spoiled rotten brat that is never satisfied with all the attention it receives, you can never sate its desire to be attended to. 


So in conclusion, Chlorine may cause asthma at high exposures, but if you are in the pool that long to aquire it, you might want to rethink your time usage of the pool. I think the host of drawbacks to using chlorine should be directed at the handling of the chemical, not the dilution of it in the pool. Too much chlorine in the pool is bad for the plaster, and too little leads to costly additives, but red eyes, hair and clothing discoloration, and skin irriatation is only due to unbalanced chemicals. Search online for the info about how to balance a pool properly or hire a professional. 

Aloha and Mahalo to all, remember teach the people how to get along with one another, becasue we already know how not to!  
RDM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha to all reading this article. Yes some of the alternatives here are a good way to complement a chlorine\bromine only pool system, but as the article notes, not all are chlorine free, and the Natural plant system that does requires a major overhaul expense, plus it takes years for it to be swimmable again. </p>
<p>In my opinion, you have to be using your pool quite a bit to benefit from switching to an alternative to chlorine, and some deep pockets to run these alternatives.</p>
<p>Ozone and Ultraviolet are a good complement a chlorine or bromine system, but what they dont tell you is that they only work when the pool pump is running. So the hours the pool pump is off there is no benefit from these  expensive equipment additions. And if you are trying to save money by running your pool pump less to save in the utility bill costs, then this is not for you. </p>
<p>The pool only sanitzes and cleans itself while it&#8217;s running. The less you run it the less it cleans. Which means if you are thinking you are saving $$ by running it less and it turns green, it&#8217;s going to cost you more to clear it through additives, and running it longer hours, usually overnight, to clear it! I am sure your pool service person won&#8217;t mind as they&#8217;ll be the ones&#8217;s  having steak and lobster that night instead of you. </p>
<p>Also, yes you do have to clean out your filter more frequent as to keep up the addional contaminates it collects, so if you&#8217;re too busy to do it yourself then you will need to hire out this crucial task, or make it one or your offsprings chores. </p>
<p>As for the Metal Ion system, I personally have not used this method, but as this article states it still requires some chlorine too. A lower pH is not good on the equipment, as acid is corrosive, and it makes the water more corrosive.  If you have a copper core heater then expect to replace the copper coil sooner, which is basically 2\3 the cost of a new heater after it&#8217;s installed, plus it dries out the rubber seals and gaskets much quicker. No heater you say, you&#8217;ve got solar, good for you, but a low pH is still bad on your body,  your plaster or grout of the tile. </p>
<p> Remember your swimming pool is full of chemicals, it&#8217;s just a chemical bath, water is life and it wants to live, and chemicals are the gas chamber to water&#8217;s life. The trick to proper balance is constant attention to the adjustment of the chemicals, think of your pool as a spoiled rotten brat that is never satisfied with all the attention it receives, you can never sate its desire to be attended to. </p>
<p>So in conclusion, Chlorine may cause asthma at high exposures, but if you are in the pool that long to aquire it, you might want to rethink your time usage of the pool. I think the host of drawbacks to using chlorine should be directed at the handling of the chemical, not the dilution of it in the pool. Too much chlorine in the pool is bad for the plaster, and too little leads to costly additives, but red eyes, hair and clothing discoloration, and skin irriatation is only due to unbalanced chemicals. Search online for the info about how to balance a pool properly or hire a professional. </p>
<p>Aloha and Mahalo to all, remember teach the people how to get along with one another, becasue we already know how not to!<br />
RDM</p>
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		<title>By: Chlorine Alternatives For Efficient Swimming Pools &#124; MultifamilyG</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/gardening/chlorine-alternatives-efficient-swimming-pools.html/comment-page-1#comment-123564</link>
		<dc:creator>Chlorine Alternatives For Efficient Swimming Pools &#124; MultifamilyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Swimming Pool Bars: The Perfect Pool Accessory for Entertaining &#171; Anything Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t frogs be killed if they fall into salt water?</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find a short list of chlorine-free pools in the U.S. here: http://piscinasana.wikidot.com/united-states

Here&#039;s the home page of Healthier Swimming: http://piscinasana.wikidot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find a short list of chlorine-free pools in the U.S. here: <a href="http://piscinasana.wikidot.com/united-states" rel="nofollow">http://piscinasana.wikidot.com/united-states</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the home page of Healthier Swimming: <a href="http://piscinasana.wikidot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://piscinasana.wikidot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: N'jelle Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>N'jelle Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone help me find a nonchlorine pool in the five boroughs (New York).  Your help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone help me find a nonchlorine pool in the five boroughs (New York).  Your help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was disappointed to see no mention of a salt-water system.  We are currently setting up our pool as a salt-water pool.  This system creates it&#039;s own chlorine in much lower levels.  No need to store or add chlorine.  It can be retro-fitted to any existing pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was disappointed to see no mention of a salt-water system.  We are currently setting up our pool as a salt-water pool.  This system creates it&#8217;s own chlorine in much lower levels.  No need to store or add chlorine.  It can be retro-fitted to any existing pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Rental Cars America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rental Cars America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this site is good site for all user.  Chlorine is an excellent disinfectant but why would we want to live with all of it’s long term effects especially possible health issues. you should visit here it&#039;s help full for you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this site is good site for all user.  Chlorine is an excellent disinfectant but why would we want to live with all of it’s long term effects especially possible health issues. you should visit here it&#8217;s help full for you</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this posting makes an excellent point. Chlorine is an excellent disinfectant but why would we want to live with all of it&#039;s long term effects especially possible health issues. I think that seeking out alternatives to using chlorine is a great way for people to lessen their impact on the environment and the chemical impact on themselves! 

I think it&#039;s great that people are really starting to think and discuss these issues. The reason why the Green and Sustainable community is thriving so vigorously is the open exchange of ideas and information. I came across a similar posting the other day at http://www.greeneutopia.com . I ran across the site the other day while I was blog surfing and was amazed at the quality of the information they had to offer on current green issues and trends. I haven&#039;t tried it yet but they had a nice online shop as well that appears to only sell Green and Sustainable home products. I thought this might be a resource that other people may enjoy so I hope it helps you! 

http://www.greeneutopia.com
God Bless, 
Sabrina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this posting makes an excellent point. Chlorine is an excellent disinfectant but why would we want to live with all of it&#8217;s long term effects especially possible health issues. I think that seeking out alternatives to using chlorine is a great way for people to lessen their impact on the environment and the chemical impact on themselves! </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s great that people are really starting to think and discuss these issues. The reason why the Green and Sustainable community is thriving so vigorously is the open exchange of ideas and information. I came across a similar posting the other day at <a href="http://www.greeneutopia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.greeneutopia.com</a> . I ran across the site the other day while I was blog surfing and was amazed at the quality of the information they had to offer on current green issues and trends. I haven&#8217;t tried it yet but they had a nice online shop as well that appears to only sell Green and Sustainable home products. I thought this might be a resource that other people may enjoy so I hope it helps you! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.greeneutopia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.greeneutopia.com</a><br />
God Bless,<br />
Sabrina</p>
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		<title>By: PG Weekly Picks: how-to reuse coffee grounds, healthy pools, Father&#8217;s Day gift ideas, &#38; more. &#124; Practically Green</title>
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		<description>[...] Chlorine Alternatives for Healthy and Energy Efficient Pools: Some people have chemical sensitivities to chlorine treatments in pools, so here are a few healthy, green options to clean the pool without the harsh smell, itchy skin, and discolored bathing suits&#8230; [...]</description>
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