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	<title>Comments on: Solar Water Heaters Now Mandatory In Hawaii</title>
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		<title>By: David Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha.I agree with the state in making solar hot water systems manditory on all new homes,but this is going to shut down some of the little guys who cannot afford it in their budget.I think making this code applicable to homes over,say,1000 sq.ft.would be more realistic and consideration for using a tankless water heating system should also have some merit.I am all for increasing energy efficiency,but some allowances should be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha.I agree with the state in making solar hot water systems manditory on all new homes,but this is going to shut down some of the little guys who cannot afford it in their budget.I think making this code applicable to homes over,say,1000 sq.ft.would be more realistic and consideration for using a tankless water heating system should also have some merit.I am all for increasing energy efficiency,but some allowances should be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solar Water Heaters for domestic applications are great and the Authorities in Hawaii should be congratulated on their forward thinking.  However, there is also another water heating technology that has been developed to a level now, that is very similar to the efficiency of a Solar Water Heater - and that is an &quot;Air to Water Heat Pump&quot;.  These units can still &quot;collect&quot; free energy from the air during the night time, in heavily forrested areas, or during rainy or cloudy periods.   The Heat Pumps are also fantastic and very cost effective for Commercial applications, such as Motels, Hotwls, Large restaurants, Fitness Centres, and any application where large quantities of hot water is required over long periods of each 24 hour day.   I spent 15 years in the renewable energy industry involved in International Sales, and I believe that Air to Water Heat Pumps would be ideal in the climatic conditions experienced in Hawaii.  Another big advantage with the Heat Pump products is that installation is so much simpler and therefore not as expensive when compared to a domestic solar water heater, and there is no need for any equipment to be installed on the roof.  Everything can be installed at ground level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar Water Heaters for domestic applications are great and the Authorities in Hawaii should be congratulated on their forward thinking.  However, there is also another water heating technology that has been developed to a level now, that is very similar to the efficiency of a Solar Water Heater &#8211; and that is an &#8220;Air to Water Heat Pump&#8221;.  These units can still &#8220;collect&#8221; free energy from the air during the night time, in heavily forrested areas, or during rainy or cloudy periods.   The Heat Pumps are also fantastic and very cost effective for Commercial applications, such as Motels, Hotwls, Large restaurants, Fitness Centres, and any application where large quantities of hot water is required over long periods of each 24 hour day.   I spent 15 years in the renewable energy industry involved in International Sales, and I believe that Air to Water Heat Pumps would be ideal in the climatic conditions experienced in Hawaii.  Another big advantage with the Heat Pump products is that installation is so much simpler and therefore not as expensive when compared to a domestic solar water heater, and there is no need for any equipment to be installed on the roof.  Everything can be installed at ground level.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like a really good idea for Hawaii, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessary to require solar water heaters in other states, but it&#039;d be nice if more people were aware of them.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.austinsolarwaterheaters.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Austin solar water heater&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like a really good idea for Hawaii, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessary to require solar water heaters in other states, but it&#8217;d be nice if more people were aware of them.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.austinsolarwaterheaters.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.austinsolarwaterheaters.com?referer=');">Austin solar water heater</a></p>
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		<title>By: Green Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or here:
&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.sunbelt-solar.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Austin solar water heater&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or here:<br />
<a HREF="http://www.sunbelt-solar.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.sunbelt-solar.com?referer=');">Austin solar water heater</a></p>
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		<title>By: Green guy</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/news/solar-water-heaters-now-mandatory-in-hawaii.html/comment-page-1#comment-71480</link>
		<dc:creator>Green guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in Austin solar water heaters are not mandatory(yet) but the city is offering a $2000 rebate for anyone who installs one, when you add this to the federal credit, over %60 of the system is paid for right off the bat making payback about 3 years. More information here http://www.sunbelt-solar.com/cost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in Austin solar water heaters are not mandatory(yet) but the city is offering a $2000 rebate for anyone who installs one, when you add this to the federal credit, over %60 of the system is paid for right off the bat making payback about 3 years. More information here <a href="http://www.sunbelt-solar.com/cost" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.sunbelt-solar.com/cost?referer=');">http://www.sunbelt-solar.com/cost</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool</p>
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		<title>By: F. MARIO  PALMA</title>
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		<dc:creator>F. MARIO  PALMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELLO,  AND  THIS  IS  GREAT  NEWS,  EVEN  FOR  THOSE  OF  YOU  THAT  DONT  REALIZE   THE  SAVINGS  THAT  CAN  BE  HAD,  WHEN  YOU  PLACE  THE  SUN  AT  YOUR  SERVICE  TO  PRE  HEAT  THE  WATER,  AND  THEN  HAVE  THE  WATER  IN  A  INSULATED  TANK,  AND  THEN  WHEN  YOU  NEED  THE  HOT  WATER  IT  GOES  FROM  THE  INSULATED  TANK  TO  THE  ON  DEMAND  WATER  HEATER,( THE  WORK  THE  ON  DEMAND  HAS  TO  DO  IS  MINIMAL) AND  THE  SAVINGS  OVER  THE  LIFE  OF  THE  USERS  IS  ASTRONOMICAL, AND  IS  GREAT  FOR  THE  WORLD, MOST  FOLKS  DONT  REALIZE  THAT  CONVENTIONAL WATER  HEATERS  ARE  ON  ALL  OF  THE  TIME, IMAGINE  LEAVING  YOUR  CAR  ON  ALL  OF  THE  TIME-  SO  THAT   WHEN  YOU  NEED  IT  ITS  READY  TO  GO, SO  WAY  TO  GO  HAWAII
CHAIO AND  ALOHA. MARIO PALMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLO,  AND  THIS  IS  GREAT  NEWS,  EVEN  FOR  THOSE  OF  YOU  THAT  DONT  REALIZE   THE  SAVINGS  THAT  CAN  BE  HAD,  WHEN  YOU  PLACE  THE  SUN  AT  YOUR  SERVICE  TO  PRE  HEAT  THE  WATER,  AND  THEN  HAVE  THE  WATER  IN  A  INSULATED  TANK,  AND  THEN  WHEN  YOU  NEED  THE  HOT  WATER  IT  GOES  FROM  THE  INSULATED  TANK  TO  THE  ON  DEMAND  WATER  HEATER,( THE  WORK  THE  ON  DEMAND  HAS  TO  DO  IS  MINIMAL) AND  THE  SAVINGS  OVER  THE  LIFE  OF  THE  USERS  IS  ASTRONOMICAL, AND  IS  GREAT  FOR  THE  WORLD, MOST  FOLKS  DONT  REALIZE  THAT  CONVENTIONAL WATER  HEATERS  ARE  ON  ALL  OF  THE  TIME, IMAGINE  LEAVING  YOUR  CAR  ON  ALL  OF  THE  TIME-  SO  THAT   WHEN  YOU  NEED  IT  ITS  READY  TO  GO, SO  WAY  TO  GO  HAWAII<br />
CHAIO AND  ALOHA. MARIO PALMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Hawaii  law is bull sh.. it was passed to help the gas co install gas - fired tankless water heaters ! and install at least one other gas appliance ! it kills the 35% state tax credit ! bill has huge loopholes ! see article by michael wilmeth Solar water heating required in new homes in Hawaii 
www.buildinggren.com  the bill is &quot;grossly flawed &quot; who got paid off to pass it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Hawaii  law is bull sh.. it was passed to help the gas co install gas &#8211; fired tankless water heaters ! and install at least one other gas appliance ! it kills the 35% state tax credit ! bill has huge loopholes ! see article by michael wilmeth Solar water heating required in new homes in Hawaii<br />
<a href="http://www.buildinggren.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.buildinggren.com?referer=');">http://www.buildinggren.com</a>  the bill is &#8220;grossly flawed &#8221; who got paid off to pass it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Brian. I disagree Bryan. You might be adding to the cost of the home but the savings realized in lower electric bills makes up the difference within a couple of years. Frankly, over the medium and long run, solar drastically reduces the cost of living in that home. As for unfunded mandates, wrong again, sir. As usual, dogmatic ignores practical effect. The federal government provides an income-tax credit worth 30% of the installed price of these units. I&#039;m not sure what Hawaii does but Florida, for example, offers a $500 rebate from a dedicated fund. Some utilities offer rebates, as well. California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Florida and every other state that includes climatic zones where freezing temps are rare or non-existent should follow Hawaii&#039;s example in this regard. Doing so would further reduce the cost of solar heaters to the consumer and do more to limit greenhouse gas emissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Brian. I disagree Bryan. You might be adding to the cost of the home but the savings realized in lower electric bills makes up the difference within a couple of years. Frankly, over the medium and long run, solar drastically reduces the cost of living in that home. As for unfunded mandates, wrong again, sir. As usual, dogmatic ignores practical effect. The federal government provides an income-tax credit worth 30% of the installed price of these units. I&#8217;m not sure what Hawaii does but Florida, for example, offers a $500 rebate from a dedicated fund. Some utilities offer rebates, as well. California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Florida and every other state that includes climatic zones where freezing temps are rare or non-existent should follow Hawaii&#8217;s example in this regard. Doing so would further reduce the cost of solar heaters to the consumer and do more to limit greenhouse gas emissions.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in Hawaii and remember when my father had our solar water heater installed 25 years ago.  I moved to Arizona for awhile where it is basically sunny 364 days out of the year, yet I saw very few solar devices installed.  I recently moved back to Hawaii and immediatly had a Solar water heater installed.  It saves me approximatly 25%-30% on my electric bill and with Hawaii&#039;s electricity rates the most expensive in the nation (more the twice the cost per kwh of the second most expensive State) my investment will pay for itself in 18 months.   It was a no brainer back when my father did it and is a no brainer now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in Hawaii and remember when my father had our solar water heater installed 25 years ago.  I moved to Arizona for awhile where it is basically sunny 364 days out of the year, yet I saw very few solar devices installed.  I recently moved back to Hawaii and immediatly had a Solar water heater installed.  It saves me approximatly 25%-30% on my electric bill and with Hawaii&#8217;s electricity rates the most expensive in the nation (more the twice the cost per kwh of the second most expensive State) my investment will pay for itself in 18 months.   It was a no brainer back when my father did it and is a no brainer now.</p>
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