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	<title>Comments on: The Tallest Wind Turbines In The U.S. Installed In Texas</title>
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		<title>By: nichrome wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>nichrome wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 14:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really huge, low carbon, to save the world</description>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a GE wind technician, i can tell you that (at least GE turbines) dont take 10-30 years to pay for themselves. most parks pay for themselves in 3-5 years and that includes construction and civil costs on top of the capital cost of the turbines themselves. the hardest part of a wind park is indeed the power, but it typically doesn&#039;t tie to the local distribution grid, it was never design to carry the power. most often, wind parks  have their own substation and step their power up to transmission voltages and tie in to heavier parts of the grid, frequently many miles away. extensive wind studies are done  to determine if a site is viable a few years before ground is even broken at a site. Most major components are rated for a 20 year life span, can you car manufacturer say the same? will it run 24/7 for 20 years with only minor maintenance and &#039;tune ups&#039;? no, its a machine just like a turbine, components wear out, its a simple fact of any mechanical device. noise and flicker.... no turbines are not silent, and their unique sound, like any other noise, with the right wind can carry some distance. most locals to wind farms, just like those that live next to a free way or rail line, often stop noticing the noise after only a few months. flicker CAN be a problem, with poor planning. many new turbines have the ability to be programmed to shut down when the sun is at the correct angle to cast a distracting shadow where it isnt wanted. the view of a wind farm is an entirely subjective matter. how many &#039;country folk&#039; hate the view of a city skyline? how many &#039;city folk&#039; complain when a new skyscraper is built. we demand change and promote change, as long as its somewhere else. I personally love the view of hundreds of turbines. Like anything else, there are pro&#039;s and con&#039;s, benefits and hazards, supporters and those who oppose. how would you feel if they took your turbines down and put up a coal plant or oil refinery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a GE wind technician, i can tell you that (at least GE turbines) dont take 10-30 years to pay for themselves. most parks pay for themselves in 3-5 years and that includes construction and civil costs on top of the capital cost of the turbines themselves. the hardest part of a wind park is indeed the power, but it typically doesn&#8217;t tie to the local distribution grid, it was never design to carry the power. most often, wind parks  have their own substation and step their power up to transmission voltages and tie in to heavier parts of the grid, frequently many miles away. extensive wind studies are done  to determine if a site is viable a few years before ground is even broken at a site. Most major components are rated for a 20 year life span, can you car manufacturer say the same? will it run 24/7 for 20 years with only minor maintenance and &#8216;tune ups&#8217;? no, its a machine just like a turbine, components wear out, its a simple fact of any mechanical device. noise and flicker&#8230;. no turbines are not silent, and their unique sound, like any other noise, with the right wind can carry some distance. most locals to wind farms, just like those that live next to a free way or rail line, often stop noticing the noise after only a few months. flicker CAN be a problem, with poor planning. many new turbines have the ability to be programmed to shut down when the sun is at the correct angle to cast a distracting shadow where it isnt wanted. the view of a wind farm is an entirely subjective matter. how many &#8216;country folk&#8217; hate the view of a city skyline? how many &#8216;city folk&#8217; complain when a new skyscraper is built. we demand change and promote change, as long as its somewhere else. I personally love the view of hundreds of turbines. Like anything else, there are pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s, benefits and hazards, supporters and those who oppose. how would you feel if they took your turbines down and put up a coal plant or oil refinery?</p>
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		<title>By: STEVE GUTHRIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>STEVE GUTHRIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have two 1.6 towers being built or going to be built on our land.
We would like to know what these two wind towers can produce on a yearly bases.  The land is on a nice windy  ridge they say.  I have heard other people have received as much as $40,000 per tower but every thing I can find to read , you be lucky to get $4,300. per tower yearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have two 1.6 towers being built or going to be built on our land.<br />
We would like to know what these two wind towers can produce on a yearly bases.  The land is on a nice windy  ridge they say.  I have heard other people have received as much as $40,000 per tower but every thing I can find to read , you be lucky to get $4,300. per tower yearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Reni Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reni Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 00:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone at last is talking in the reality of wind energy. Its not all green. The side effects of living beside such a structure can be detrimental to your health, Wind Turbine Noise Syndrome, Infrasound and Vibro-Acoustic Disease, the noise radiation from such Towers can have ill side effects, Chronic Sound Syndrome, Flicker Induced Health Risks,  constant shadow filicker, even on dull day&#039;s. strobing light when the blades reflect the sun. The list of health risks are huge. But they also release more carbon monoxide into the earths atmosphere that they can ever hope to offset during there 20-30 life span. Ice falling of the blades can be propelled up to 1700m away. They are dangerous, and we have to live beside them. And the spoiling of the natral habitate of many wild animal / birds that can be killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone at last is talking in the reality of wind energy. Its not all green. The side effects of living beside such a structure can be detrimental to your health, Wind Turbine Noise Syndrome, Infrasound and Vibro-Acoustic Disease, the noise radiation from such Towers can have ill side effects, Chronic Sound Syndrome, Flicker Induced Health Risks,  constant shadow filicker, even on dull day&#8217;s. strobing light when the blades reflect the sun. The list of health risks are huge. But they also release more carbon monoxide into the earths atmosphere that they can ever hope to offset during there 20-30 life span. Ice falling of the blades can be propelled up to 1700m away. They are dangerous, and we have to live beside them. And the spoiling of the natral habitate of many wild animal / birds that can be killed.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an electrician and have been trying to find out where to go to find out about getting a job with the erectors of these machines. Anybody know where i can look call 713-480-4608 thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an electrician and have been trying to find out where to go to find out about getting a job with the erectors of these machines. Anybody know where i can look call 713-480-4608 thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How cost effecient is it now for the US to clean up and salvage out animals, beaches, oceans and wet lands from using oil and the drilling? (BP catastrophe)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cost effecient is it now for the US to clean up and salvage out animals, beaches, oceans and wet lands from using oil and the drilling? (BP catastrophe)</p>
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		<title>By: Small Sustainable Funding for the Biggest Impact &#171; Intercon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Small Sustainable Funding for the Biggest Impact &#171; Intercon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like for anyone reading this to please point me in the right direction on who or what company&#039;s are installing.I&#039;m a industrial paint contractor and would like to talk to anyone on painting these and also maintaining them when its time to put coating on them.Please someone give me direction on who to talk to or what company to contact.Please call 816 -215-1526.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like for anyone reading this to please point me in the right direction on who or what company&#8217;s are installing.I&#8217;m a industrial paint contractor and would like to talk to anyone on painting these and also maintaining them when its time to put coating on them.Please someone give me direction on who to talk to or what company to contact.Please call 816 -215-1526.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how does it disrupt the Landscape? Most Windfarms are built on awful looking Farm/Ranch land, or old coal mines. I guess some people hate seeing progress? I think they look nice, and it gives the cattle some shade, hehe.

Maybe your another jealous land owner whose nieghbor is getting 2500/year per turbine on his land, and your getting nothing. Bitter are we? =O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how does it disrupt the Landscape? Most Windfarms are built on awful looking Farm/Ranch land, or old coal mines. I guess some people hate seeing progress? I think they look nice, and it gives the cattle some shade, hehe.</p>
<p>Maybe your another jealous land owner whose nieghbor is getting 2500/year per turbine on his land, and your getting nothing. Bitter are we? =O</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Work on Wind Turbines, I do new construction.
V90&#039;s are trash, Vestas is going to stop making them already, to many issues. The V82&#039;s and the New Vestas Turbines are good. 
GE will be leading the market in the the US soon i&#039;m sure -- Easier Construction, Maintenace, Cheaper, Transporting is cheaper. 

Suzlons are the cheapest tower (Like 2.5 Mil I belive) They put out 2.4 MW. Mitizubishi Towers are expensive and they put out 2.4 also. There are hundreds of Namebrands.. 


And the other poster is correct, these turbines hardly pay for themselves. Just to pay off the cost of the construction (Rigging, Roadwork, Electrical, Gridwork, Substations, Etc.) will take 30 years. 

These towers will last 20-30 years without Major issues, if Maintained correctly. Then they will just replace the Nacell. In the future they will help. Right now it&#039;s all politics =) 

For all the fruitcakes that say thjey kill birds and are very loud are sticking on to a 1980&#039;s arguement. Towers since like 1990 Don&#039;t hardy make a sound, and they have started doing better research on locations to avoid wildlife.. 

The Towers in Tatuhiiti Pass (Sp?) in CA by Mojave, CA are the Loud ones that kill birds (Blades spin way faster, and they are built in a migration area..) They were put up in the 1980&#039;s. 

The main problem with windfarms is getting the power into the grid... over 3/4&#039;s of the windfarms cant run at full capaity. 

Oh, and there is NO TOWN that is 100% Wind Energy. The power that comes from wind turbines in mixed with power that comes from coal plants too, It&#039;s just a sales pitch saying that. I thought you knew what you were talking about til you mentioned that, heh.

I don&#039;t really care about being green, I&#039;m just happy I have a good job =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Work on Wind Turbines, I do new construction.<br />
V90&#8242;s are trash, Vestas is going to stop making them already, to many issues. The V82&#8242;s and the New Vestas Turbines are good.<br />
GE will be leading the market in the the US soon i&#8217;m sure &#8212; Easier Construction, Maintenace, Cheaper, Transporting is cheaper. </p>
<p>Suzlons are the cheapest tower (Like 2.5 Mil I belive) They put out 2.4 MW. Mitizubishi Towers are expensive and they put out 2.4 also. There are hundreds of Namebrands.. </p>
<p>And the other poster is correct, these turbines hardly pay for themselves. Just to pay off the cost of the construction (Rigging, Roadwork, Electrical, Gridwork, Substations, Etc.) will take 30 years. </p>
<p>These towers will last 20-30 years without Major issues, if Maintained correctly. Then they will just replace the Nacell. In the future they will help. Right now it&#8217;s all politics =) </p>
<p>For all the fruitcakes that say thjey kill birds and are very loud are sticking on to a 1980&#8242;s arguement. Towers since like 1990 Don&#8217;t hardy make a sound, and they have started doing better research on locations to avoid wildlife.. </p>
<p>The Towers in Tatuhiiti Pass (Sp?) in CA by Mojave, CA are the Loud ones that kill birds (Blades spin way faster, and they are built in a migration area..) They were put up in the 1980&#8242;s. </p>
<p>The main problem with windfarms is getting the power into the grid&#8230; over 3/4&#8242;s of the windfarms cant run at full capaity. </p>
<p>Oh, and there is NO TOWN that is 100% Wind Energy. The power that comes from wind turbines in mixed with power that comes from coal plants too, It&#8217;s just a sales pitch saying that. I thought you knew what you were talking about til you mentioned that, heh.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care about being green, I&#8217;m just happy I have a good job =)</p>
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