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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-36547</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jennifer, props to you for your comment. 
(your post wasn&#039;t live when I wrote mine)

@Judie B and Tory, true true! The more of us realise what we are doing, the more chances we have of undoing the &#039;wrongdoing&#039; before it&#039;s really too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jennifer, props to you for your comment.<br />
(your post wasn&#8217;t live when I wrote mine)</p>
<p>@Judie B and Tory, true true! The more of us realise what we are doing, the more chances we have of undoing the &#8216;wrongdoing&#8217; before it&#8217;s really too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-29704</link>
		<dc:creator>Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being green is not a fad, its what we need to be to keep the world going.  It won&#039;t go out of style like skinny jeans because if it does, there will be nothing left of the world for our children to enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being green is not a fad, its what we need to be to keep the world going.  It won&#8217;t go out of style like skinny jeans because if it does, there will be nothing left of the world for our children to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Judie B</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-29223</link>
		<dc:creator>Judie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I&#039;ve been around before we&#039;ve become such dependents on eletronics this and eletrical thats, to make what we think is a way to make our life&#039;s easier; it&#039;s because of this that our planet is deteriorating.  We have become a planet that keeps needing and wanting more and more of our planets dwindling resources; getting to the point of extinction.  I remember being the first family in our neighborhood to have a television, and everyone came over to watch.  So now we&#039;re talking about being buried with our cell phones, or the like.  When will it end?  when we have no planet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;ve been around before we&#8217;ve become such dependents on eletronics this and eletrical thats, to make what we think is a way to make our life&#8217;s easier; it&#8217;s because of this that our planet is deteriorating.  We have become a planet that keeps needing and wanting more and more of our planets dwindling resources; getting to the point of extinction.  I remember being the first family in our neighborhood to have a television, and everyone came over to watch.  So now we&#8217;re talking about being buried with our cell phones, or the like.  When will it end?  when we have no planet?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-28788</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Is there a cloud of delusion in the air?&lt;/b&gt;

Sorry to get &lt;b&gt;back on topic&lt;/b&gt; here, but can&#039;t you tell that what these companies are doing is just &lt;b&gt;green marketing&lt;/b&gt;? A song and dance! They&#039;re pushing on the latest buzz button that&#039;ll get consumers to pony up. Sure the idea of a less toxic less polluting phone is great, but let&#039;s not kid ourselves: in the overall scheme of things, it&#039;s a total joke that would barely make an ass&#039;s hair of a difference, if any. It&#039;s like the politicians telling us about &quot;clean coal.&quot; &lt;b&gt;There is no such thing as clean coal&lt;/b&gt;.  It&#039;s a spin doctor&#039;s term intended to keep you onboard. When&#039;s the last time you spoke of less-watery water, non-burning fire or less-shitty shit?? Putting the word &#039;clean&#039; in front of something toxic &lt;b&gt;does not make it non-toxic&lt;/b&gt;…

Now if the big cell companies were honest about going green, they would make 101 changes in their product development, manufacturing, design and marketing plans. That would of course imply a major overhaul of their infrastructure, but hey guess what, that&#039;s exactly what&#039;s needed to lessen the &lt;b&gt;destruction of our planet&lt;/b&gt;.

And for those still wondering, innocently, if a colder south pole or hot temperatures 1000 years ago, are indications or proof that what&#039;s happening today is normal, natural and can be maintained, please look at yourself in the mirror and say &quot;It&#039;s OK, I guess, that I don&#039;t know what&#039;s happening to &lt;b&gt;this earth I live on&lt;/b&gt;, but before forming an opinion on an important subject, I will actually look at the science,&quot; and then slap yourself – with both hands.

The point is not to single out cell companies or any one polluting industry, it&#039;s to realize that us humans are killing our planet, right now, at an accelerating rate. Endless production, consumption, waste is not possible on a &lt;b&gt;finite&lt;/b&gt; planet. The Earth is a limited system. Let me repeat: &lt;b&gt;The Earth is a limited system&lt;/b&gt;. There are two things that can ensure its survival: remove mankind and let the earth heal itself (over thousands of years), or find ecologically sound ways to satisfy our world of unlimited human needs, while taking into account the Earth every step of the way. It is possible. And yes it would entail some sacrifices. Remember, Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day, but if we don&#039;t make radical changes, it will disappear, one day.

&lt;b&gt;The first step is to be aware.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Is there a cloud of delusion in the air?</b></p>
<p>Sorry to get <b>back on topic</b> here, but can&#8217;t you tell that what these companies are doing is just <b>green marketing</b>? A song and dance! They&#8217;re pushing on the latest buzz button that&#8217;ll get consumers to pony up. Sure the idea of a less toxic less polluting phone is great, but let&#8217;s not kid ourselves: in the overall scheme of things, it&#8217;s a total joke that would barely make an ass&#8217;s hair of a difference, if any. It&#8217;s like the politicians telling us about &#8220;clean coal.&#8221; <b>There is no such thing as clean coal</b>.  It&#8217;s a spin doctor&#8217;s term intended to keep you onboard. When&#8217;s the last time you spoke of less-watery water, non-burning fire or less-shitty shit?? Putting the word &#8216;clean&#8217; in front of something toxic <b>does not make it non-toxic</b>…</p>
<p>Now if the big cell companies were honest about going green, they would make 101 changes in their product development, manufacturing, design and marketing plans. That would of course imply a major overhaul of their infrastructure, but hey guess what, that&#8217;s exactly what&#8217;s needed to lessen the <b>destruction of our planet</b>.</p>
<p>And for those still wondering, innocently, if a colder south pole or hot temperatures 1000 years ago, are indications or proof that what&#8217;s happening today is normal, natural and can be maintained, please look at yourself in the mirror and say &#8220;It&#8217;s OK, I guess, that I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s happening to <b>this earth I live on</b>, but before forming an opinion on an important subject, I will actually look at the science,&#8221; and then slap yourself – with both hands.</p>
<p>The point is not to single out cell companies or any one polluting industry, it&#8217;s to realize that us humans are killing our planet, right now, at an accelerating rate. Endless production, consumption, waste is not possible on a <b>finite</b> planet. The Earth is a limited system. Let me repeat: <b>The Earth is a limited system</b>. There are two things that can ensure its survival: remove mankind and let the earth heal itself (over thousands of years), or find ecologically sound ways to satisfy our world of unlimited human needs, while taking into account the Earth every step of the way. It is possible. And yes it would entail some sacrifices. Remember, Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day, but if we don&#8217;t make radical changes, it will disappear, one day.</p>
<p><b>The first step is to be aware.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being &quot;Green&quot; isn&#039;t about being cool or following some sort of Fad.  If you look back to the late 80&#039;s, when cities started setting up recycling programs, till now... we&#039;ve actually made leeps and bounds forward when it comes to conciousness about the enviroment.  Though I am one who isn&#039;t sure if the whole broohaha as to Global Warming is legit science or if it&#039;s something we&#039;ll be looking at in 50 years and chuckling about.  Still being concious of our impact on the world is still something important.  Frankly if we consider the toxins in the soils, and the plastic waste in the water, etc. being green and turning the trend before things get worse is so massivly important for the future of this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being &#8220;Green&#8221; isn&#8217;t about being cool or following some sort of Fad.  If you look back to the late 80&#8217;s, when cities started setting up recycling programs, till now&#8230; we&#8217;ve actually made leeps and bounds forward when it comes to conciousness about the enviroment.  Though I am one who isn&#8217;t sure if the whole broohaha as to Global Warming is legit science or if it&#8217;s something we&#8217;ll be looking at in 50 years and chuckling about.  Still being concious of our impact on the world is still something important.  Frankly if we consider the toxins in the soils, and the plastic waste in the water, etc. being green and turning the trend before things get worse is so massivly important for the future of this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: UnlockediPhone@Tmobile?</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-28233</link>
		<dc:creator>UnlockediPhone@Tmobile?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked for various cellular carriers for the last 6 years, it&#039;s hard to believe that a company that does not offer iPhones in the US would unlock the device for use on its network... especially when the iPhone doesn&#039;t have a code you can just punch into the device like other phones.  Don&#039;t listen to &quot;g1 accessories&quot;.  He obviously doesn&#039;t know what he&#039;s talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked for various cellular carriers for the last 6 years, it&#8217;s hard to believe that a company that does not offer iPhones in the US would unlock the device for use on its network&#8230; especially when the iPhone doesn&#8217;t have a code you can just punch into the device like other phones.  Don&#8217;t listen to &#8220;g1 accessories&#8221;.  He obviously doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-22007</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello i love the Iphone want one bad so bad i have made a bow to be the greenest i can be so....im with T-mobile ... and well thay have the G1 plus is that HTC make phone for wold wide so thay are ROHS  but i  can not find out if that use PVC and BFRS i have call t-mobile and HTC to find out and thay said thay had no idea!!!! no ide!!! i guess that means yes to PVC ??? or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello i love the Iphone want one bad so bad i have made a bow to be the greenest i can be so&#8230;.im with T-mobile &#8230; and well thay have the G1 plus is that HTC make phone for wold wide so thay are ROHS  but i  can not find out if that use PVC and BFRS i have call t-mobile and HTC to find out and thay said thay had no idea!!!! no ide!!! i guess that means yes to PVC ??? or what?</p>
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		<title>By: g1 accessories</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-20760</link>
		<dc:creator>g1 accessories</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tmobile G1 has been unlocked, this will allow you to use a SIM card from any network, in any country. Hey guys FYI, T-mobile will unlock any phone for you for free if you are in good standing with the company, so don’t shell out the cash to get that iphone unlocked just call T-mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tmobile G1 has been unlocked, this will allow you to use a SIM card from any network, in any country. Hey guys FYI, T-mobile will unlock any phone for you for free if you are in good standing with the company, so don’t shell out the cash to get that iphone unlocked just call T-mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: cprise</title>
		<link>http://www.metaefficient.com/phones/greenest-cell-phones-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-16091</link>
		<dc:creator>cprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long can these phones realistically be used? I take it none of the batteries are standard sizes, which could make replacing them very difficult in, say 5 years.

Also, USB charging capability is a very green feature, as it provides a standard and nearly ubiquitous connector. Continually collecting and discarding special wall-wart chargers because they don&#039;t fit a new phone (or because the power connector isn&#039;t available at work/school) creates untold tons of gadget-related waste.

Could you please keep this aspects of portable electronics in mind for future reviews?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long can these phones realistically be used? I take it none of the batteries are standard sizes, which could make replacing them very difficult in, say 5 years.</p>
<p>Also, USB charging capability is a very green feature, as it provides a standard and nearly ubiquitous connector. Continually collecting and discarding special wall-wart chargers because they don&#8217;t fit a new phone (or because the power connector isn&#8217;t available at work/school) creates untold tons of gadget-related waste.</p>
<p>Could you please keep this aspects of portable electronics in mind for future reviews?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: jl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John B, that is a great thought, except that we will ALL (human, animal, plant) be victim to the perils of climate change, not just those who buy the most water bottles and drive the farthest.  Those who survive (if any do) will not be the ones who consumed the least, and therefore by your logic most &#039;deserve&#039; to be around to tell the tale.  The first victims will be (and already are) disproportionately the poor in developing nations; individuals with the least power to affect  global policy change, and the lowest rates of consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John B, that is a great thought, except that we will ALL (human, animal, plant) be victim to the perils of climate change, not just those who buy the most water bottles and drive the farthest.  Those who survive (if any do) will not be the ones who consumed the least, and therefore by your logic most &#8216;deserve&#8217; to be around to tell the tale.  The first victims will be (and already are) disproportionately the poor in developing nations; individuals with the least power to affect  global policy change, and the lowest rates of consumption.</p>
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