Comments on: Rock Port: First U.S. City To Run On 100% Wind Power http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html The Guide To Efficient Living Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:10:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Thomas | Electric Car http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-151517 Thomas | Electric Car Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:32:44 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-151517 Its good to hear that there are some actions to force renewable energies instead of doing endless researches about whether it could work or not. However its necessary that there is a mix of different alternative technologies which contribute each other. If every city would gratify its demand on its own it could cause poblems at times when there is e.g. a lot of wind, and the offer surmounts the demand. Its good to hear that there are some actions to force renewable energies instead of doing endless researches about whether it could work or not. However its necessary that there is a mix of different alternative technologies which contribute each other. If every city would gratify its demand on its own it could cause poblems at times when there is e.g. a lot of wind, and the offer surmounts the demand.

]]> By: Isaac Kepler http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-67858 Isaac Kepler Tue, 12 May 2009 15:09:09 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-67858 Do the Math. Awfully expensive per person, $90,000,000 divided by 1,300? So even if it lasts for 30 years and its manufacturer is still in business to cover the warrantees, I wouldn't be so sure of any fixed rate, regardless. A lot can happen in one year, much less 30 years. Right now there's new and really cost effective Vertical axis turbines way out performing old Windmill 'Propeller Towers' and in a few years, when the old windmills are totally obsolete and outdated, these poor people still have to keep on paying for them. And, is that the 'All inclusive Price?' The financing interest? The transmission lines? What about conventional Power plant grid and back-up in case some time in the next 30 years there.s a few days or a couple weeks when the earth stands still or the wind doesn't blow, or it doesn't blow hard enough? And what about Government 'add-ons' for Green Credit recoupment sowhere down the road. See, its a Ponzi Scheme. No matter what, you never get it paid off and there's always next years' New and Improved model already waiting! Co-op bus and trucking companies all went broke buying into the same schemes. Hold out for Wind Turbines that are more cost effective and better proven than old 'Wind-Mill 'Propeller Towers!' Do the Math. Awfully expensive per person, $90,000,000 divided by 1,300? So even if it lasts for 30 years and its manufacturer is still in business to cover the warrantees, I wouldn’t be so sure of any fixed rate, regardless. A lot can happen in one year, much less 30 years. Right now there’s new and really cost effective Vertical axis turbines way out performing old Windmill ‘Propeller Towers’ and in a few years, when the old windmills are totally obsolete and outdated, these poor people still have to keep on paying for them. And, is that the ‘All inclusive Price?’ The financing interest? The transmission lines? What about conventional Power plant grid and back-up in case some time in the next 30 years there.s a few days or a couple weeks when the earth stands still or the wind doesn’t blow, or it doesn’t blow hard enough? And what about Government ‘add-ons’ for Green Credit recoupment sowhere down the road. See, its a Ponzi Scheme. No matter what, you never get it paid off and there’s always next years’ New and Improved model already waiting! Co-op bus and trucking companies all went broke buying into the same schemes. Hold out for Wind Turbines that are more cost effective and better proven than old ‘Wind-Mill ‘Propeller Towers!’

]]> By: CB http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-60066 CB Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:39:25 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-60066 Ken calls BS because he's full of the S. Ken, the "Grid" is the storage. In the future though, there will be so much Wind and Solar that another storage option will be needed because the "grid" won't be able to handle it. Tech always moves forward Ken and those options are being tested and perfected. One day, there won't be much of a need for a National Grid. Only local ones. And that means more reliable and less vulnerable/expensive. Ken calls BS because he’s full of the S. Ken, the “Grid” is the storage. In the future though, there will be so much Wind and Solar that another storage option will be needed because the “grid” won’t be able to handle it. Tech always moves forward Ken and those options are being tested and perfected. One day, there won’t be much of a need for a National Grid. Only local ones. And that means more reliable and less vulnerable/expensive.

]]> By: Ken Johnson http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-12782 Ken Johnson Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:26:38 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-12782 FANTASTIC! I think this is wonderful. Congress and the Libs say this can't be done, not practicle. Way to go Rock Port! We need this, and solar, and nuclear, and drilling for our own oil and gas, and the full gambit of all types of power for the future. Come on America - wake up! Stop saying NO!!! We're smart enough to "interweave" all these technologies together! Geez! We're America for God sake! We can do ANYTHING!!!! bigeasy FANTASTIC!
I think this is wonderful. Congress and the Libs say this can’t be done, not practicle. Way to go Rock Port!
We need this, and solar, and nuclear, and drilling for our own oil and gas, and the full gambit of all types of power for the future. Come on America – wake up! Stop saying NO!!! We’re smart enough to “interweave” all these technologies together! Geez! We’re America for God sake! We can do ANYTHING!!!!
bigeasy

]]> By: Alfred http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-11929 Alfred Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:56:56 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-11929 Ken, there is enough wind in Rock Port to power the entire state of Missouri without ever having to rely on the grid. Ken, there is enough wind in Rock Port to power the entire state of Missouri without ever having to rely on the grid.

]]> By: Ken http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-8384 Ken Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:47:17 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-8384 I call BS, unless the power generated is being stored somehow for use during periods of low or no wind. When the wind dies down, the city is not " 100% on Wind Power", but reliant on the grid. I call BS, unless the power generated is being stored somehow for use during periods of low or no wind. When the wind dies down, the city is not ” 100% on Wind Power”, but reliant on the grid.

]]> By: Ann E. Mouse http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-8271 Ann E. Mouse Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:21:11 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-8271 *Impressive but doesn’t seem feasible for larger cities.* "feasible for larger cities" = exactly what the old energy infrastructure wants. One big answer, not a bunch of resilient, distributed small answers - because then that means no easy way to have a few controlling the energy fates of the many. If you have a small wind "helix" and some solar panels on the roof of every home in california the people and the environment win and the big, old energy companies lose. We cannot allow that to happen, we must wait for the one big answer to our energy future. *Impressive but doesn’t seem feasible for larger cities.*

“feasible for larger cities” = exactly what the old energy infrastructure wants.
One big answer, not a bunch of resilient, distributed small answers – because then that means no easy way to have a few controlling the energy fates of the many. If you have a small wind “helix” and some solar panels on the roof of every home in california the people and the environment win and the big, old energy companies lose. We cannot allow that to happen, we must wait for the one big answer to our energy future.

]]> By: Someone http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html/comment-page-1#comment-8269 Someone Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:56:20 +0000 http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/rock-port-first-us-city-to-run-on-100-wind-power.html#comment-8269 Impressive but doesn't seem feasible for larger cities. Impressive but doesn’t seem feasible for larger cities.

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