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	<title>Comments on: $2 Billion Wind Turbine Order Is Largest Ever</title>
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		<title>By: top secret</title>
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		<dc:creator>top secret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fact that people are just talking and not taking any action within these project. is a serious problem. istead of just talking about lowering ghg emmission why don&#039;t we actually do it. the trick to lowering ghg is to actually put time, energy and money into the projects. if they are reliable. people don&#039;t realied that the problem of ghg is always increasing even as i type this. why not stop talking and start taking actions.

i would look at this like a fight. a fight that the world has to take. when in a fight the person which takes the first action. usally wins

action creates the future. words are almost. nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fact that people are just talking and not taking any action within these project. is a serious problem. istead of just talking about lowering ghg emmission why don&#8217;t we actually do it. the trick to lowering ghg is to actually put time, energy and money into the projects. if they are reliable. people don&#8217;t realied that the problem of ghg is always increasing even as i type this. why not stop talking and start taking actions.</p>
<p>i would look at this like a fight. a fight that the world has to take. when in a fight the person which takes the first action. usally wins</p>
<p>action creates the future. words are almost. nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Strip Clubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strip Clubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I see is if eventually he plans to have over 2500 Turbines.  He will have to employ quite a few service guys to keep them running.  Unlike Solar,  Wind turbines are mechanical and need maintanence.  So I see this creating quite a few jobs.  I wish he would build fewer turbines and just use larger ones.  Also why not the vertical axis turbines?  I hear the Chinese have created one that makes over 1 GW of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I see is if eventually he plans to have over 2500 Turbines.  He will have to employ quite a few service guys to keep them running.  Unlike Solar,  Wind turbines are mechanical and need maintanence.  So I see this creating quite a few jobs.  I wish he would build fewer turbines and just use larger ones.  Also why not the vertical axis turbines?  I hear the Chinese have created one that makes over 1 GW of power.</p>
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		<title>By: 5starbaby-com</title>
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		<dc:creator>5starbaby-com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The future is here.  I hope this leads to commitments from others around the country/world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The future is here.  I hope this leads to commitments from others around the country/world.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac Kepler/Advanced Designs, Inc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac Kepler/Advanced Designs, Inc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 08:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve heard ole T. Boone Pickens has started to get a taste of the Great &#039;Propeller Tower&#039; swindle and all the hidden &#039;problems that are inherent to Propeller Towers. Just try to find the real all inclusive cost of any wind farm project. The &quot;Prop&quot; in &#039;Propeller&#039;  is the Government incentives, credits and subsidies to &#039;Prop&#039; up the speculative investment market with outright evasion and cover-up. Trying to railroad the Propeller Tower concept down the consumer/taxpayer&#039;s throat is getting bad. The GREEN energy initiative is fast becoming the GREED initiative. Check out the investment hype on &quot;The 4 fastest growing Wind Stocks on Wall Street&quot; then check the U.S. Dept. of Energy&#039;s &#039;Innovation &amp; Invention&#039; page stating since 2007, &quot;there are no funds available&#039; and &quot;there are no solicitations open at this time or in the expected future&quot; but you can find GE and other major Windmill corporates with funded and co-funded R &amp; D to keep on trying to beat that dreaming old Propeller Tower into working as it should and if they only produce half their predicted output, they can come back and put up twice as many more. But, the catch is the consumer / taxpayer is inevietably expected to fund and cover all those credits and all that spending too! If this even comes close to a straightforward deal, where&#039;s the transparancy on the bottom line? Just try to find actual all inclusive costs for any of these Wind Power projects. That is the R &amp; D,( both Government and Corporate funds), the manufacturing cost, (both Government &amp; Corporate funded), the total delivery, installation, and hook-up costs(both Government and Private funding). the connectivity and inversion station costs(both Government and Private funded), the conventional power plant for back-up and grid maintenence on &amp; off line feed , monitor and phase control contracts for full operational duration of 30 year average (corpoate and local Government funded) the compounded financing interests for the operational expectancy of the project(local &amp; state Government Bonds and Corporate and Private Capital), the insurance policies throughout the operational duration for all risks with clauses for increases( state and local excise taxes and consumer surcharges), the routine maintenence costs and replacement parts and unit costs beyond all warrantees and prorated per part guarantees subject to increases unspecified at this time( paid by taxpayer/  consumer through regular payment with regular incremental increases depending on sustained ownership, solvency and ditribution costs of  term per regulatory allowance)
So then what about land use leases, ownership, and heaven forbid, &#039;Property Taxes&#039; once waiver is inevietably reneged? Does that begin to look like a new modern version of your electric or utilities bill multiplied by 12 how many times then by 30? So why the lies, ommisions, and secrecy when you try to find out what its really going to cost? Well, we forgot to add in all the middle man costs and profits? We can&#039;t really afford  to keep on ignoring lesser cost more efficient and endurable designs to utilize wind power. Just a little research and common sense says  &quot;...gee, when I stick just one finger out the car window at 60 miles an hour, I can barely feel it, but when I cup my hand and stick it out, I can really feel some force...duh! So why &quot;no funds available&quot; for true &#039;Alternative Wind Energy Resrarch &amp; Development from our very own Dept of Energy? Your guess on whose pockets have monopolized on that funnel are as good as mine, know any well funded &quot;BIG WIND&quot; Corporates out there lately? Well, there&#039;s truely and surely much more cost effective and efficient ways to get electricity from wind, but that&#039;s not what the promotors are after, they want BIG PROFITS. Thats what all the GREED  Energy hype and hoodoo has been about since they couldn&#039;t use their &quot;PROP&quot;ellers for airplanes as much since  JEt turbines and there wasn&#039;t enough speculative opportunity in helicopters, they decided to use the PROPellers to suck for their big bucks. Remember the recent foible, &quot;...it&#039;s TOO BIG TO FAIL. Be wise, demand development of True Turbine vertical axis wind generators if we really need Wind Power. Less cost , less problems, less corruption, they go with the flow, its naturally more compatible, in science, politics, your pockets, your ears, and your wallet. Don&#039;t let the BIG WIND crooks blow any more in your ear and then shrug and give you BIG EXCUSES for what they did with your BIG BUCKS, Demand that Government research real Wind Dynamics and economics, its vertical like an honest hand shake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve heard ole T. Boone Pickens has started to get a taste of the Great &#8216;Propeller Tower&#8217; swindle and all the hidden &#8216;problems that are inherent to Propeller Towers. Just try to find the real all inclusive cost of any wind farm project. The &#8220;Prop&#8221; in &#8216;Propeller&#8217;  is the Government incentives, credits and subsidies to &#8216;Prop&#8217; up the speculative investment market with outright evasion and cover-up. Trying to railroad the Propeller Tower concept down the consumer/taxpayer&#8217;s throat is getting bad. The GREEN energy initiative is fast becoming the GREED initiative. Check out the investment hype on &#8220;The 4 fastest growing Wind Stocks on Wall Street&#8221; then check the U.S. Dept. of Energy&#8217;s &#8216;Innovation &amp; Invention&#8217; page stating since 2007, &#8220;there are no funds available&#8217; and &#8220;there are no solicitations open at this time or in the expected future&#8221; but you can find GE and other major Windmill corporates with funded and co-funded R &amp; D to keep on trying to beat that dreaming old Propeller Tower into working as it should and if they only produce half their predicted output, they can come back and put up twice as many more. But, the catch is the consumer / taxpayer is inevietably expected to fund and cover all those credits and all that spending too! If this even comes close to a straightforward deal, where&#8217;s the transparancy on the bottom line? Just try to find actual all inclusive costs for any of these Wind Power projects. That is the R &amp; D,( both Government and Corporate funds), the manufacturing cost, (both Government &amp; Corporate funded), the total delivery, installation, and hook-up costs(both Government and Private funding). the connectivity and inversion station costs(both Government and Private funded), the conventional power plant for back-up and grid maintenence on &amp; off line feed , monitor and phase control contracts for full operational duration of 30 year average (corpoate and local Government funded) the compounded financing interests for the operational expectancy of the project(local &amp; state Government Bonds and Corporate and Private Capital), the insurance policies throughout the operational duration for all risks with clauses for increases( state and local excise taxes and consumer surcharges), the routine maintenence costs and replacement parts and unit costs beyond all warrantees and prorated per part guarantees subject to increases unspecified at this time( paid by taxpayer/  consumer through regular payment with regular incremental increases depending on sustained ownership, solvency and ditribution costs of  term per regulatory allowance)<br />
So then what about land use leases, ownership, and heaven forbid, &#8216;Property Taxes&#8217; once waiver is inevietably reneged? Does that begin to look like a new modern version of your electric or utilities bill multiplied by 12 how many times then by 30? So why the lies, ommisions, and secrecy when you try to find out what its really going to cost? Well, we forgot to add in all the middle man costs and profits? We can&#8217;t really afford  to keep on ignoring lesser cost more efficient and endurable designs to utilize wind power. Just a little research and common sense says  &#8220;&#8230;gee, when I stick just one finger out the car window at 60 miles an hour, I can barely feel it, but when I cup my hand and stick it out, I can really feel some force&#8230;duh! So why &#8220;no funds available&#8221; for true &#8216;Alternative Wind Energy Resrarch &amp; Development from our very own Dept of Energy? Your guess on whose pockets have monopolized on that funnel are as good as mine, know any well funded &#8220;BIG WIND&#8221; Corporates out there lately? Well, there&#8217;s truely and surely much more cost effective and efficient ways to get electricity from wind, but that&#8217;s not what the promotors are after, they want BIG PROFITS. Thats what all the GREED  Energy hype and hoodoo has been about since they couldn&#8217;t use their &#8220;PROP&#8221;ellers for airplanes as much since  JEt turbines and there wasn&#8217;t enough speculative opportunity in helicopters, they decided to use the PROPellers to suck for their big bucks. Remember the recent foible, &#8220;&#8230;it&#8217;s TOO BIG TO FAIL. Be wise, demand development of True Turbine vertical axis wind generators if we really need Wind Power. Less cost , less problems, less corruption, they go with the flow, its naturally more compatible, in science, politics, your pockets, your ears, and your wallet. Don&#8217;t let the BIG WIND crooks blow any more in your ear and then shrug and give you BIG EXCUSES for what they did with your BIG BUCKS, Demand that Government research real Wind Dynamics and economics, its vertical like an honest hand shake.</p>
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		<title>By: Ecohappidude3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ecohappidude3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 18:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dudes, we all need to stop talking and get working, if we don&#039;t we will all die. Over time the species we have killed brutally will cause others to die and end all food for earth, plants and all, including us.
!!!!!!!!!wind farms are the way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dudes, we all need to stop talking and get working, if we don&#8217;t we will all die. Over time the species we have killed brutally will cause others to die and end all food for earth, plants and all, including us.<br />
!!!!!!!!!wind farms are the way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is &quot;mucho bueno&quot; finally an american with &quot;big cojones&quot; is going to do it.
Go mister &quot;T. Boone Pickens &quot;. Show the world why America is &quot;numero uno&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is &#8220;mucho bueno&#8221; finally an american with &#8220;big cojones&#8221; is going to do it.<br />
Go mister &#8220;T. Boone Pickens &#8220;. Show the world why America is &#8220;numero uno&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why Texas is falling behind.  They could do better but do not.  And the individual making this purchase is an Oil Man, which equals NO EDUCATION.  There you have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why Texas is falling behind.  They could do better but do not.  And the individual making this purchase is an Oil Man, which equals NO EDUCATION.  There you have it.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy with the nuke power needs to figure in the colateral costs as well and they are huge. They are security, disposal of waste, ... .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy with the nuke power needs to figure in the colateral costs as well and they are huge. They are security, disposal of waste, &#8230; .</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is what needs to be done in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what needs to be done in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush heralds from the Northeast.  So to all the whining liberals saying Texans should pay, perhaps you should study up and reconsider.

If we should pay for anything it&#039;s LBJ. Vietnam...entitlement programs that weren&#039;t sustainable...his cowardly handling of the Civil Rights movement.  Although, he was a Democrat, so it&#039;s doubtful you&#039;d be nearly as ready as a Texan is to admit how much he fouled up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush heralds from the Northeast.  So to all the whining liberals saying Texans should pay, perhaps you should study up and reconsider.</p>
<p>If we should pay for anything it&#8217;s LBJ. Vietnam&#8230;entitlement programs that weren&#8217;t sustainable&#8230;his cowardly handling of the Civil Rights movement.  Although, he was a Democrat, so it&#8217;s doubtful you&#8217;d be nearly as ready as a Texan is to admit how much he fouled up.</p>
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